07:03 [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: Re: ricoh rpcs-r driver za gel tiskalnik ricoh aficio sg 2100n https://www.ubuntu.si/punbb/post/40607/#p40607
09:09<msev> kok te�ko je portat zadeve iz enga desktop environmenta v druzga? Npr. tole je za gnome napisano -> https://github.com/joaquimrocha/Leap-GNOME-Controller
09:09joaquimrocha/Leap-GNOME-Controller · GitHub»Leap-GNOME-Controller - Control the GNOME desktop using a Leap Motion device.«
09:20<zdobersek> heyhey sasa84 !!
09:20<sasa84> oooooo zdobersek :)
09:22<msev> no djta si virtualno kavico skuhat :D, pol pa zdobersek poglej un moj vpra�anje zgoraj :D
09:23<zdobersek> ffs
09:23<zdobersek> github down
09:24<msev> aja sj res :) pr men tut ja
09:24 [OMG! Ubuntu!] Ubuntu Edge Campaign Ends, Fails to Meet Multi-Million Dollar Goal http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/ErXgXIfy85U/ubuntu-edge-fails-to-meet-mutli-million-dollar-goal-wont-be-made http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/edge2.jpg
09:26<sasa84> oj msev :)
09:27<sasa84> ACTION skuha kavico za zdobersek
09:27<msev> oj
09:27<sasa84> zdobersek, štrudeljčka za zraven al tiramisu?
09:27<msev> grmado
09:27<zdobersek> sasa84: strudl bo ok
09:27<sasa84> kulchy :D
09:38<dz0ny> msev: emulira X protokol, dela na vsem kjer se spodaj uporablja X, glej https://github.com/joaquimrocha/Leap-GNOME-Controller/blob/master/leap-gnome-controller.py#L76
09:38Leap-GNOME-Controller/leap-gnome-controller.py at master · joaquimrocha/Leap-GNOME-Controller · GitHub»Leap-GNOME-Controller - Control the GNOME desktop using a Leap Motion device.«
09:39<msev> ja zdel se mi je ful generično
09:39<msev> nism najdu notr ničesar kar bi bodlo v oči
09:39<msev> nevem zakaj je dal pol tak ime
09:41<msev> hvala dz0ny
09:43<dz0ny> msev: zato da zve mere zaslona :P
09:44<msev> a gnome mu to pove drugi pa ne ?
09:45<yang> sasa84 slascicarka
09:45<yang> sasa84: a ze mate slascicarno v rakeku ?
09:45<dz0ny> msev: ne samo gtk api uproabi
09:46<dz0ny> yang: vse punce v rakeku so tud slaščičarke
09:47<idioterna> to pa prvic slism
09:47<idioterna> js poznam par punc z rakeka k so vse zivo
09:47<idioterna> slacicarke pa ne.
09:47<yang> multi talentirane
09:48<msev> https://code.launchpad.net/~gala-dev/gala/trunk
09:48trunk : Code : Gala
09:48<msev> ^^ a je to alternative X Window managerju, a je to nekaj kar pod, kot nek pod-modul :D
09:50<dz0ny> ne vem mam adblock za launchpad
09:53<zdobersek> na laucnhpadu so reklame?
09:53<zdobersek> launchpadu
09:53<sasa84> yang, ne, nimamo :)
09:53<yang> sasa84: evo poslovna priloznost...
09:55<dz0ny> idioterna: to je v ethosu
10:03<idioterna> aja
10:03<idioterna> to pa mozno ja
10:03<idioterna> albanska kri!
10:20<zdobersek> budali. http://www.24ur.com/foto-sta-se-policista-z-radarjem-primerno-postavila.html
10:2024ur.com - FOTO: Sta se policista z radarjem primerno postavila?»"Pločnik in kolesarska steza sta predstavnikom oblasti očitno nepomembna," pravi bralec, ki je fotografiral radarsko kontrolo v Celju. Policista res nista izbrala najprimernejšega prostora, a prometa nista ovirala, so odgovorili s policije.«
10:20<dz0ny> haha, mislim to je realno pričakovat da se bodo tako odzvali :)
10:22<idioterna> skoda k niso napisal "pa bi vi sli u polcisko solo pa bi loh bols parkiral radar"
10:22<idioterna> to ponavad men recejo k jih kritiziram :)
10:28<yang> ;)
10:30<yang> Ide policajac i kaze mu Perica: Pozdravio te Djuro.
10:30<yang> Policajac:
10:30<yang> -Koji Djuro?
10:30<yang> -Koji ti je tur'o.
10:30<yang> Tako Perica zezne policajca par puta,ovaj se pozali inspektoru,kaze inspektor:
10:30<yang> -Ti sad njega zajebi,kazi mu pozdravio te Pero,kad on pita koji Pero ti kazi onaj koji te der'o.
10:30<yang> Sutra dan naidje pollicajac na Pericu,pa rece:
10:30<yang> -E mali,pozdravio te Pero.
10:30<yang> -Znam,rek'o mi Djuro.
10:31<yang> -Koji Djuro???
10:38<idioterna> http://www.lolbrary.com/content/471/purrpetual-motion-52471.gif
10:49<zdobersek> ah yes, the 2.5MB .gif
10:50<zdobersek> take stvari povzrocajo neucinkovitost NSA
10:50<idioterna> zato pa crosspejstam v vse mozne kanale
10:50<idioterna> nej kr 30x interceptnejo
10:50<idioterna> pogledat pa morjo
10:50<idioterna> kaj ce je bomba
10:52<zdobersek> ziher je mel Edward Snowden polna jetra teh gifov
10:57<miha> dan
10:57<breza1> Zdravo, miha
10:58<miha> a mi lahk kdo pomaga s tem sd card bralnikom???
10:58<miha> ne dela :p
10:59<zdobersek> kaj beremo?
11:01<miha> ne vem kak usposobit to
11:01<miha> slike iz fotoaparata
11:01<miha> kabla nimamo s sabo
11:02<miha> 15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
11:02<miha> 15:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
11:02<miha> 15:00.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
11:02<miha> 15:00.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 11)
11:02<miha> 15:00.5 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 11)
11:02<miha> kartice pa ne mounta
11:03<dz0ny> dmesg
11:03<dz0ny> ti bo povedal card locked
11:03<dz0ny> vržeš v smeti lahko kar takoj
11:04<miha> a?
11:04<miha> kaj
11:04<dz0ny> dmesg poženeš
11:04<dz0ny> vstaviš kartico
11:04<dz0ny> dmesg again
11:04<dz0ny> ti napiše kaka napaka je
11:04<miha> ni razlike
11:05<dz0ny> wait what, nč ti ne napiše?
11:05<miha> nič
11:05<dz0ny> pol ti sploh ne zazna kartice
11:05<dz0ny> prbi katero drugo
11:05<dz0ny> brb
11:13<dz0ny> miha kej uspeha
11:14<miha> nč
11:16<idioterna> rebootat mors
11:16<miha> idioterna: ja?
11:16<idioterna> js mam neki podobnga
11:16<miha> kak to misliš?
11:16<idioterna> 0b:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
11:16<idioterna> 0b:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
11:17<idioterna> 0b:04.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
11:17<idioterna> 0b:04.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 11)
11:17<idioterna> in vsake tolk casa umre
11:17<idioterna> sicer napise v dmesg
11:17<idioterna> nek cudn firmware dump
11:17<idioterna> ampak do reboota pol ne dela
11:17<idioterna> tut ce module unloadam pa reloadam
11:17<idioterna> je isto
11:17<miha> kaj pol naredim?
11:17<miha> dam kartico not pa rebootam?
11:17<miha> to sm že menda
11:18<idioterna> aja hm to ne vem
11:18<idioterna> men pol dela normalno
11:18<idioterna> mislm vstekam pa dobim media changed event pa vse to
11:18<miha> jst nikol nism uporablju tega
11:18<dz0ny> dej kartico ven ugasni laptop
11:18<miha> zdj bi
11:18<dz0ny> odkjuci iz stroma daj baterijo stran
11:18<dz0ny> pritisni power
11:19<idioterna> no ja
11:19<idioterna> there's a simpler solution
11:19<idioterna> dobi si usb reader.
11:19<miha> kje za vraga naj to dobim zdj :D
11:19<dz0ny> to tud js iscem
11:19<dz0ny> :p
11:19<idioterna> hm
11:19<idioterna> sej to majo povsod
11:19<idioterna> ce se ti mudi pac tech trade al pa big bang i guess
11:20<dz0ny> ja sam vsi ne znajo prebolet uporabe dd
11:20<dz0ny> prebavit
11:20<idioterna> hm
11:20<idioterna> to se mi pa se ni zgodil
11:20<idioterna> da dd neb delu
11:20<miha> pozdrav vsem iz morja.
11:20<idioterna> sej so vsi usb mass storage
11:20<idioterna> aja na morju si
11:20<idioterna> sej se ni konc avgusta
11:20<idioterna> a so taljani se tam?
11:20<zdobersek> pozdrav vsem iz moje sobe.
11:22<dz0ny> ko uporabim dd delalike 5s
11:22<dz0ny> pol se ic resetira
11:22<idioterna> aha fun
11:23<dz0ny> in potem zna samo fotoaparat formatirat tako kartico
11:26<zdobersek> 25min late, CrazyLemon
11:28<miha> kak je že komanda za vreme?
11:28<miha> od bota
11:28<zdobersek> .vreme
11:28<zdobersek> .vreme Celje
11:28<zdobersek> ...
11:28<miha> .vreme rab
11:29<miha> dela?
11:29<zdobersek> ne
11:29<idioterna> nema vremena
11:29<zdobersek> HAARP fucked everything up.
11:30<idioterna> premal ste kis zlival po tleh
11:31<zdobersek> pa prsil v zrak
11:31<miha> :(
11:31<zdobersek> dans je blo tle v celjski kotlini oblacno za popizdit
11:32<idioterna> tle je pa sonck
11:32<idioterna> pa se kr znosne temperature
11:33<miha> lp... time is up :D
11:33<zdobersek> https://www.facebook.com/groups/haarp.slo/?ref=ts&fref=ts
11:33Facebook»Facebook je socialno omrežje, ki povezuje ljudi s prijatelji, oziroma osebami, ki živijo, delajo ali se šolajo v bližini. Ljudje uporabljajo Facebook z razlogom, da ostanejo v stiku s prijatelji, delijo neomejeno število fotografij, objavljajo povezave ter videoposnetke in z razlogom, da izvejo več o ljudeh, ki jih spoznajo.«
11:33<zdobersek> ce je komu do komedije :>
11:34<dz0ny> ping
11:34<breza1> Yes, my firend?
11:34<zdobersek> .vreme Breza
11:34<dz0ny> heh
11:34<zdobersek> .vreme breza1
11:34<dz0ny> .vreme lj
11:35<CrazyLemon> breza1 wake up
11:35<CrazyLemon> :/
11:36<dz0ny> .vreme lj
11:36<dz0ny> nope api down
11:37<dz0ny> .yt these new puritans
11:37<breza> These New Puritans - Fragment Two (Official Video)(5 minut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvICVWLBKY ♥1,482 ▶242,919
11:39<dz0ny> http://opendata.si/vreme/report/?lat=46.02&lon=14.12
11:39<CrazyLemon> ubuntu edge @ $12.8mio
11:40<idioterna> mhm
11:40<idioterna> i got my money back
11:50<zdobersek> YES WE CAN
12:08<dz0ny> ok https://plus.google.com/u/0/116960357493251979546/posts/RZpndv4BCCD
12:08Sarah Sharp – Google+ - Facepalm. Linux may have been causing USB disconnects on…»Facepalm. Linux may have been causing USB disconnects on resume from device suspend all along.Pretty much for my entire career in Linux USB (eight…«
12:08<dz0ny> mogoče je pa to krivo da se meni sd reader izklaplja
12:14<CrazyLemon> si probal patch?
12:14<dz0ny> nope ker dvomim da je to
12:14<dz0ny> to mi naredi med prenosom
12:37<CrazyLemon> http://www.bolha.com/fotografija-in-optika/digitalni-fotoaparati/zrcalno-refleksni-digitalni-fotoaparati/nikon/nikon-d300-ter-objektiv-nikor-18-200-1288566164.html?aclct=1376745358
12:37Nikon d300 ter objektiv Nikor 18-200 :: bolha.com»Prodam fotoaparat Nikon d300. Razlog prodaje je prezahtevnost, saj ga ne znam dobro uporabljati. Nimam škatle in papirjev samo navodila.. v kompletu je:«
12:37<CrazyLemon> :))
12:51<zdobersek> PERFORMANCE REGRESSION
12:51<sasa84> *zeh*
12:52<zdobersek> 10ms increase in timeout?
12:52<zdobersek> kvajto, sej nismo zivali
12:53<idioterna> zdobersek: up to.
13:17<zdobersek> .yt QI up to nine
13:17<breza> QI - Season 9 - Episode 11 - Infantile - XL(44 minut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbE8WHd-ea0 ♥734 ▶240,590
13:19<zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_tk6Wxkaj8
13:19QI Polygamy - YouTube»"Should it be capped?" "Up to 9" Hahaha«
13:25<sasa84> pppp LorD_DDooM
13:25<sasa84> :D
14:01<lurker69> http://ismycreditcardstolen.com/ lol
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14:20<CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1yeDW3dHdw
14:20JBC 4X Revelations - Michal Marosi crazy wallride - YouTube»During the craziest fourcross race ever at JBC 4X Revelations Michal Marosi did something unbelievable! Crashed hard on a pro section, got back on his bike a...«
14:23<dz0ny_> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/valencia-region-government-completes-switch-libreoffice
14:23Valencia region government completes switch to LibreOffice | Joinup
15:10 [Web Upd8] Andrew: Pipelight: Use Silverlight In Your Linux Browser To Watch Netflix, Maxdome Videos And More http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/qRXYiNZBOe0/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1113424/img/netflix-linux-chrome_thumb.png
15:38<CrazyLemon> KOT DA TO NI DOVOLJ >>> RN VIP članstvo ti podarimo brezplačno !!!
15:38<CrazyLemon> O M G!!
15:38<CrazyLemon> brezplačno!
15:40<Sky[x]> :D
15:43<Sky[x]> CrazyLemon, si pa srecnez da si dobil brezplacnez :)
15:43<CrazyLemon> Sky[x] počutim se kot velik srečnež!
15:44<CrazyLemon> fajn bi bilo če bi se spomnu username pa gesla da se odjavim/zbrišem acc.. sam se ne :)
15:45<Sky[x]> pozabljeno geslo ane :P
15:45<zdobersek> za tvoje dobro, sej bos zdej VIP clan!
15:46<CrazyLemon> zanimivo je predvsem to..da je lastpass shranu en mail
15:46<CrazyLemon> na drug mail pa sm dobu VIP !
15:46<CrazyLemon> :)
15:48<CrazyLemon> The British Telecom Company has picked you as a lucky person of a lump sum pay out of 1,000,000.00.
15:48<CrazyLemon> maan..its my lucky day
15:50<CrazyLemon> Sky[x] če bi le pozabljeno geslo dejansko poslalo geslo :)
15:51<zdobersek> ... boljs bi blo, ce bi ti geslo resetiral.
15:51<CrazyLemon> karkoli pač.. maila še ni :)
15:52<zdobersek> ziher je na tretjem naslovu
15:52<CrazyLemon> might be! :)
15:53<zdobersek> very important multi-personality person
15:54<dz0ny_> we know he is a PIMP
15:54<CrazyLemon> its here!
15:54<CrazyLemon> ob 15:45 poslano..ob 15:54 prejeto
15:59<zdobersek> VIP indeed! drugace bi ga dobil jutri.
16:02<Sky[x]> hehe
16:02<Sky[x]> jst pa pianota nimam vec :)
16:02<CrazyLemon> sej ga noben ne uporablja :)
16:03<Sky[x]> res ga nism nikol ja
16:03<Sky[x]> sam kar sem testirov :D
16:16<dz0ny_> .imdb We’re The Millers
16:16<breza> We're the Millers (2013) - 6.7(✋ 980) (RT N/A) http://imdb.com/title/tt1723121
16:16<breza> A veteran pot dealer creates a fake family as part of his plan to move a huge shipment of weed into the U.S. from Mexico.
16:17<dz0ny_> ^^^ CrazyLemon
16:17<CrazyLemon> dz0ny_ čakam :>
16:20<dz0ny_> a webrip ni ok?
16:20<CrazyLemon> je ok..sam ga ni videt na pašniku
16:21<CrazyLemon> ah..pa je gor :)
17:29<sasa84> CrazyLemon, a ga že sposojajo? :P
17:56 [Ubuntu.si] tonymk: Re: ricoh rpcs-r driver za gel tiskalnik ricoh aficio sg 2100n https://www.ubuntu.si/punbb/post/40608/#p40608
18:32<yan6> zgleda bom nabavil eno zadevo za ubuntu
18:32<yan6> ce bo cena taprava
18:46<yan6> kaj trolajo na tem slotechu to ni res
18:47<yan6> najprej je kupec nizal ceno, ok sem spustil, pol je pa zelel se dotavo na dom, da bo "potem placal"
18:47<yan6> haha
18:48<yan6> mislim, da nimajo pametnejsega dela
18:48<yan6> ja vmes je hotel se neke ekstra specifikacije iz boot-a
18:50<yan6> ta bi 3 ure tam doma testiral zadevo, predno bi sploh placal
18:52<sasa84> ACTION pihne yan6 v uho
18:52<sasa84> yan6, maš kšn monitor?
18:53<yan6> hm
18:53<yan6> mam
18:54<yan6> dva mam
18:54<yan6> en je samo za DEMO, k ma neko crto na posrek
18:54<yan6> en je pa izpraven
18:57<yan6> samsung syncmaster 917N , ce se prav spomnim iz glave
18:57<yan6> to je se na tastar analogen adapter
18:59<yan6> sasa84: CRTjev pa nimam vec
19:00<yan6> ampak jih lahko dobis se kje zastnj, tiste
19:00<sasa84> sm misnla, d maš kšne lcdje :P
19:00<yan6> ta samsung je LCD
19:00<yan6> 19"
19:01<yan6> sam ne mi rect, da ti ga moram v Rakek pripeljat !!!
19:02<yan6> Vsaj ne v nekem pametnem casovnem obdobju
19:02<yan6> CE grem na primorsko ni panike, mal zavijem
19:02<sasa84> pa dela?
19:02<yan6> ja
19:02<yan6> dela
19:03<sasa84> za kolk ga daš?
19:03<yan6> pojma nimam
19:03<yan6> naceloma ga sploh ne prodajam, ker je se v funkciji
19:03<yan6> kaj dosti ni vec vreden
19:05<yan6> bom se malo pozanimal o ceni, pa ti sporocim
19:05<yan6> grem zdaj, lepo bodite
19:06<sasa84> oki
19:06<sasa84> papa
19:39 [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: Re: ricoh rpcs-r driver za gel tiskalnik ricoh aficio sg 2100n https://www.ubuntu.si/punbb/post/40609/#p40609
20:38<zdobersek> ni nam lahko ...
21:01<CrazyLemon> ni nw
21:01<CrazyLemon> be*
21:01<CrazyLemon> NE GADDEMIT
21:29<zdobersek> ??
21:31<dz0ny_> ni me
21:33<zdobersek> ????
21:38<dz0ny_> zdobersek: skuhaj kavo, prid nazaj
21:38<dz0ny_> you will get it
21:38<dz0ny_> eventually
21:42<zdobersek> prepozno.
21:46<dz0ny_> ok a ima Bon Jovi kakšno posebno povezavo z Jennifer Aniston
21:46<dz0ny_> i dont' get the millers goof
21:47<dz0ny_> CrazyLemon: pogledal We're the Millers
21:47<dz0ny_> ?
21:56<zdobersek> .imdb We're the Millers
21:56<breza> We're the Millers (2013) - 6.7(✋ 980) (RT N/A) http://imdb.com/title/tt1723121
21:56<breza> A veteran pot dealer creates a fake family as part of his plan to move a huge shipment of weed into the U.S. from Mexico.
21:56<zdobersek> lol @ dz0ny_
21:56<zdobersek> :>
21:56<dz0ny_> 7,2/10 from 10.325 users
21:57<zdobersek> v cem je potem fora 6.7?
21:57<zdobersek> huh
21:58<zdobersek> Silver Linings Playbook ma 7.9, in sem ga pogledu
21:58<zdobersek> oprosti, CrazyLemon
21:58<dz0ny_> zdobersek: api ja cached za kak teden
21:58<dz0ny_> ne na moj strani
21:59<dz0ny_> ce se ti da lahko z cehrio napišeš da popraska z strani :)
21:59<dz0ny_> cherio
21:59<dz0ny_> == jquery
22:00<dz0ny_> tole je tudi zanimivo https://github.com/google/gumbo-parser
22:00google/gumbo-parser · GitHub»Contribute to gumbo-parser development by creating an account on GitHub.«
22:02<zdobersek> ma dej dej
22:02<zdobersek> the internship ma oceno 6.5
22:02<zdobersek> imdb je qrac
22:07<CrazyLemon> dz0ny_ ne :)
22:07<CrazyLemon> zdobersek sux 2 be you..so many good movies you wont see :/
22:08<CrazyLemon> dz0ny_ bom pa zdaj star trek :)
22:08<CrazyLemon> seveda prek VOD!
22:08<CrazyLemon> :>
22:10<zdobersek> kter VOD?
22:10<zdobersek> sux to be me ... :/
22:13<dz0ny_> ah there is a blooper reel that lasts a little over two minutes and ends with the principal cast singing the Friends theme song to Jennifer Aniston.
22:13<dz0ny_> never watched friends
22:13<CrazyLemon> dear lord boy..what did you do in your childhood ?
22:14<zdobersek> porn > friends
22:14<zdobersek> any time
22:15<dz0ny_> i didn't watch tv
22:15<zdobersek> no porn there
22:16<idioterna> * > friends
22:16<zdobersek> friends > friends ?
22:17<idioterna> too many levels of recursion error
22:19<CrazyLemon> fb friends > instagram friends > twitter friends > irc friends > friends!!!
22:20<CrazyLemon> gademit pozabu sm linkedin
22:20<CrazyLemon> pa g+
22:20<CrazyLemon> :(
22:21<zdobersek> pa ubuntu-si
22:21<CrazyLemon> no friends on ubuntu-si :/
22:21<zdobersek> dasiravno se ne enacimo z irc frendi
22:21<zdobersek> true
22:26<dz0ny_> http://www.mediastinger.com/elysium-the-millers-are-box-office-winners/
22:26Elysium & The Millers Are Box Office Winners « MediaStinger | Movie and Video Game After Credits Database, News, Reviews, and Trailers!»«
22:27<CrazyLemon> elysium je kul?
22:28<dz0ny_> 2/5
22:28<CrazyLemon> the millers? :)
22:28<dz0ny_> 3.5/5
22:29<CrazyLemon> good enough
22:29<dz0ny_> <3 pomen d sem preskočil kakšen del filma
22:29<CrazyLemon> <3 pomeni da ti je zelo všeč!
22:29<CrazyLemon> :p
22:30<dz0ny_> > 3 sem se pa tud kaj smejal
22:31<dz0ny_> ja sam to se zapiše :heart:, men <3 nč ne pokaže
23:19<zdobersek> (10:29:35 PM) dz0ny_: <3 pomen d sem preskočil kakšen del filma
23:19<zdobersek> what the hell